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Post by Nashville GM on Aug 8, 2015 0:05:05 GMT
When do we need to meet the cap floor/ceiling? Before NHL season starts? Before NHL pre-season starts?
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Post by bluesgm on Aug 8, 2015 0:35:10 GMT
Well like I said shortly after all drafting is complete which will be pretty much the preseason
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Post by Nashville GM on Aug 8, 2015 0:41:27 GMT
Well like I said shortly after all drafting is complete which will be pretty much the preseason So.. that means I have time to sign a random free agent for 10 million assuming I'm 10 million below the cap? (To meet the floor) Just an example
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Post by bluesgm on Aug 8, 2015 0:42:51 GMT
Another Rule I'd like to propose
The BOG (board of govs) is in charge of contract reviews
I would like one alternate BOG appointed to fill in on contract review only for each contract submitted by a reg BOG
For example CHI could be the Alternate (if he isn't already on the original board) when STL submits his proposed contract for Strome......
Just a check n balance type thing
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Post by bluesgm on Aug 8, 2015 0:44:40 GMT
Well like I said shortly after all drafting is complete which will be pretty much the preseason So.. that means I have time to sign a random free agent for 10 million assuming I'm 10 million below the cap? (To meet the floor) Just an example There is zero chance that would occur this off season as there will be no FA, but yes going into next summer you may offer whatever you want to qualified UFA
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Post by bluesgm on Aug 8, 2015 0:47:34 GMT
Well like I said shortly after all drafting is complete which will be pretty much the preseason So.. that means I have time to sign a random free agent for 10 million assuming I'm 10 million below the cap? (To meet the floor) Just an example For this offseason the likely scenario would be that say Ellias or Lecavlier etc go undrafted (which likely won't happen) you would just add them at their contract and meet the floor......in all honestly you will likely just do that during the "second draft" which keeps getting called a prospect draft which is completely misleading
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 8:33:59 GMT
I want to ask about faceoffs, and especially about the FOL stat we're using. Do you win that stat by having more or less faceoff losses than the other team?
For example, if I put Burakovsky, Grigorenko and Namestnikov at center, they're not going to lose many faceoffs because they don't take many of them. Will I then win the FOL stat and lose the FOW stat, getting a tie in faceoffs without putting any effort into it? That would just seem wrong to me. Shouldn't we use FO% or the difference between FOW and FOL instead of two separate stats? Or if we need to keep two separate stats, then how about FOW and FO%?
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Another question is about scoring categories. In the "League Rules Summary" section at Fantrax, there are these scoring category weights. But our scoring system is "Head-to-Head - Most Categories is a Win", so all scoring categories should be of equal value because of that. So is our scoring system wrong, or are those scoring category weights in there for no reason?
If we do have weighted scoring categories, then we need to go through those weights for sure. For example, fights have a weight of 1 but blocked shots have a weight of 0.5. In my opinion, fights should not be worth twice as much as blocked shots. Ask any player if fighters are more valuable than shot-blockers...
And also, we have a lot of scoring categories where random variance is going to be huge in weekly match-ups. For example, fights, GWG+ShG, SHP, SHO, 1Star... These categories are most likely going to end up 0-0 or 1-0 most weeks, so having them equally as important as goals or assists just doesn't seem right to me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 11:34:05 GMT
I would also like to get more information about contract extensions.
Let's say in the summer of 2016 I have 5 UFAs, 3 RFAs on my pro roster and 10 RFAs on my farm. How many of them can I sign to contract extension?
This is how I've understood the rules so far, so let me know if I'm mistaken. Option A) - I sign one RFA to long-term contract extension (max 5 years) - I sign two UFAs to contract extensions (max 5 years) - I sign all of my other RFAs to one-year contract extensions -> 3 of my UFAs go up for bidding
Option B)
- I sign three UFAs to contract extensions (max 5 years)
- I sign all of my RFAs to one-year contract extension s -> 2 of my UFAs go up for bidding
Is this correct? These would basically be the two options I have? (Of course I could also choose not to re-sign some of those players.)
Do those pro roster RFAs go up for bidding automatically or only if I can't get a contract extension done during the signing period? I don't think farm players should be up for bidding at all, especially when there's no compensation for contracts of less than $1M. And I think every team should have the option of trying to re-sign their own RFAs before others can bid on them.
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Post by Nashville GM on Aug 8, 2015 17:34:32 GMT
I want to ask about faceoffs, and especially about the FOL stat we're using. Do you win that stat by having more or less faceoff losses than the other team? For example, if I put Burakovsky, Grigorenko and Namestnikov at center, they're not going to lose many faceoffs because they don't take many of them. Will I then win the FOL stat and lose the FOW stat, getting a tie in faceoffs without putting any effort into it? That would just seem wrong to me. Shouldn't we use FO% or the difference between FOW and FOL instead of two separate stats? Or if we need to keep two separate stats, then how about FOW and FO%? --------------------------- Another question is about scoring categories. In the "League Rules Summary" section at Fantrax, there are these scoring category weights. But our scoring system is "Head-to-Head - Most Categories is a Win", so all scoring categories should be of equal value because of that. So is our scoring system wrong, or are those scoring category weights in there for no reason? If we do have weighted scoring categories, then we need to go through those weights for sure. For example, fights have a weight of 1 but blocked shots have a weight of 0.5. In my opinion, fights should not be worth twice as much as blocked shots. Ask any player if fighters are more valuable than shot-blockers... And also, we have a lot of scoring categories where random variance is going to be huge in weekly match-ups. For example, fights, GWG+ShG, SHP, SHO, 1Star... These categories are most likely going to end up 0-0 or 1-0 most weeks, so having them equally as important as goals or assists just doesn't seem right to me. I think you win 1 point for winning FOW but only lose 0.5 point for losing FOL so it's still better to win more faceoff. I believe scoring is weighted, and I don't think they will change it...or else you're looking at redraft?
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Post by ducksfan19 on Aug 8, 2015 19:21:51 GMT
I want to ask about faceoffs, and especially about the FOL stat we're using. Do you win that stat by having more or less faceoff losses than the other team? For example, if I put Burakovsky, Grigorenko and Namestnikov at center, they're not going to lose many faceoffs because they don't take many of them. Will I then win the FOL stat and lose the FOW stat, getting a tie in faceoffs without putting any effort into it? That would just seem wrong to me. Shouldn't we use FO% or the difference between FOW and FOL instead of two separate stats? Or if we need to keep two separate stats, then how about FOW and FO%? --------------------------- Another question is about scoring categories. In the "League Rules Summary" section at Fantrax, there are these scoring category weights. But our scoring system is "Head-to-Head - Most Categories is a Win", so all scoring categories should be of equal value because of that. So is our scoring system wrong, or are those scoring category weights in there for no reason? If we do have weighted scoring categories, then we need to go through those weights for sure. For example, fights have a weight of 1 but blocked shots have a weight of 0.5. In my opinion, fights should not be worth twice as much as blocked shots. Ask any player if fighters are more valuable than shot-blockers... And also, we have a lot of scoring categories where random variance is going to be huge in weekly match-ups. For example, fights, GWG+ShG, SHP, SHO, 1Star... These categories are most likely going to end up 0-0 or 1-0 most weeks, so having them equally as important as goals or assists just doesn't seem right to me. Yeah I agree with your questions. If we are doing the "most categories is a win", then having weighted stats does not make a difference. I would agree blocking shots is more important than fighting, but fighting is a lot more rare than blocking shots, and that is why I think it weighs a little more, but again, if we are doing "most categories" then none of this matters And with the FOW and FOL, like your situation, you are going to win one category, but the other team will win one also so they cancel each other out. I'd say you have to have a minimum number of draws to be able to win those categories, but I am not sure if we can add limit for that.
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Post by bluesgm on Aug 8, 2015 19:27:32 GMT
I want to ask about faceoffs, and especially about the FOL stat we're using. Do you win that stat by having more or less faceoff losses than the other team? For example, if I put Burakovsky, Grigorenko and Namestnikov at center, they're not going to lose many faceoffs because they don't take many of them. Will I then win the FOL stat and lose the FOW stat, getting a tie in faceoffs without putting any effort into it? That would just seem wrong to me. Shouldn't we use FO% or the difference between FOW and FOL instead of two separate stats? Or if we need to keep two separate stats, then how about FOW and FO%? --------------------------- Another question is about scoring categories. In the "League Rules Summary" section at Fantrax, there are these scoring category weights. But our scoring system is "Head-to-Head - Most Categories is a Win", so all scoring categories should be of equal value because of that. So is our scoring system wrong, or are those scoring category weights in there for no reason? If we do have weighted scoring categories, then we need to go through those weights for sure. For example, fights have a weight of 1 but blocked shots have a weight of 0.5. In my opinion, fights should not be worth twice as much as blocked shots. Ask any player if fighters are more valuable than shot-blockers... And also, we have a lot of scoring categories where random variance is going to be huge in weekly match-ups. For example, fights, GWG+ShG, SHP, SHO, 1Star... These categories are most likely going to end up 0-0 or 1-0 most weeks, so having them equally as important as goals or assists just doesn't seem right to me. as far as face offs go it is to be designed to be beneficial to players who are good at winning them....i agree with you entirely that the catagory must be changed to "NET FOW" other wise someone could just negate the whole catagory by not playing centers that take draws.... As far as the catagories they ARE ALL WEIGHTED....if you look there is zero doubt about it scoring points is far and away the main focus...particularly goals.... Hits, Blocks, FOW, Fights etc are all accounted for but not at all in the same value....
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Post by bluesgm on Aug 8, 2015 19:40:01 GMT
I would also like to get more information about contract extensions. Let's say in the summer of 2016 I have 5 UFAs, 3 RFAs on my pro roster and 10 RFAs on my farm. How many of them can I sign to contract extension? This is how I've understood the rules so far, so let me know if I'm mistaken. Option A) - I sign one RFA to long-term contract extension (max 5 years) - I sign two UFAs to contract extensions (max 5 years) - I sign all of my other RFAs to one-year contract extensions -> 3 of my UFAs go up for bidding Option B) - I sign three UFAs to contract extensions (max 5 years) - I sign all of my RFAs to one-year contract extension s -> 2 of my UFAs go up for bidding Is this correct? These would basically be the two options I have? (Of course I could also choose not to re-sign some of those players.) Do those pro roster RFAs go up for bidding automatically or only if I can't get a contract extension done during the signing period? I don't think farm players should be up for bidding at all, especially when there's no compensation for contracts of less than $1M. And I think every team should have the option of trying to re-sign their own RFAs before others can bid on them. my view is that we are allowed to sign 4 expiring contracts to long term extensions.....3 of any like (UFA or RFA) and 1 bonus resigning reserved for only a RFA Minor contracts should almost never expire while still in the minors as they would have to be called up the offseason after they reach 82 games played. as i'm answering these questions please realize these are only my views and all of this will be discussed and voted on by the board..... just want to give you insight to what im thinking
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 19:53:46 GMT
Yeah I agree with your questions. If we are doing the "most categories is a win", then having weighted stats does not make a difference. I would agree blocking shots is more important than fighting, but fighting is a lot more rare than blocking shots, and that is why I think it weighs a little more, but again, if we are doing "most categories" then none of this matters And with the FOW and FOL, like your situation, you are going to win one category, but the other team will win one also so they cancel each other out. I'd say you have to have a minimum number of draws to be able to win those categories, but I am not sure if we can add limit for that. The weightings are per category, so you can basically win "fights" category with only one fight in a week (what usually happens) while you might need over 100 blocked shots in a week to win that category. So in that case, you'd get 1 point for that one fight but only 0.5 points for all the blocked shots. That just seems very stupid to me. Fights should not be anywhere near that valuable. as far as face offs go it is to be designed to be beneficial to players who are good at winning them....i agree with you entirely that the catagory must be changed to "NET FOW" other wise someone could just negate the whole catagory by not playing centers that take draws.... As far as the catagories they ARE ALL WEIGHTED....if you look there is zero doubt about it scoring points is far and away the main focus...particularly goals.... Hits, Blocks, FOW, Fights etc are all accounted for but not at all in the same value.... That's my point exactly about faceoffs; I can just punt those on purpose if I can get a tie by not taking any faceoffs. That shouldn't happen. If scoring categories are indeed weighted, then our scoring system is wrong. "Most categories is a Win" means all scoring categories are equal. Otherwise you might actually win MOST categories but still lose the match-up because you won the less valuable scoring categories. my view is that we are allowed to sign 4 expiring contracts to long term extensions.....3 of any like (UFA or RFA) and 1 bonus resigning reserved for only a RFA Minor contracts should almost never expire while still in the minors as they would have to be called up the offseason after they reach 82 games played. as i'm answering these questions please realize these are only my views and all of this will be discussed and voted on by the board..... just want to give you insight to what im thinking We draft minor league players, and they have existing contracts right now. Do they slide until they're called up? If that's true, then it would be beneficial to keep McDavid and Eichel in the minors for a year so that the owners of those two would still have them on ELC in 2018-2019. Just using two radical examples, that probably wouldn't happen. But it could easily happen with other prospects. You shouldn't have 3 full seasons of ELC left when you call up a player if that player has already spent years in the AHL.
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Post by ducksfan19 on Aug 8, 2015 19:59:29 GMT
Yeah I agree with your questions. If we are doing the "most categories is a win", then having weighted stats does not make a difference. I would agree blocking shots is more important than fighting, but fighting is a lot more rare than blocking shots, and that is why I think it weighs a little more, but again, if we are doing "most categories" then none of this matters And with the FOW and FOL, like your situation, you are going to win one category, but the other team will win one also so they cancel each other out. I'd say you have to have a minimum number of draws to be able to win those categories, but I am not sure if we can add limit for that. The weightings are per category, so you can basically win "fights" category with only one fight in a week (what usually happens) while you might need over 100 blocked shots in a week to win that category. So in that case, you'd get 1 point for that one fight but only 0.5 points for all the blocked shots. That just seems very stupid to me. Fights should not be anywhere near that valuable. Are you sure they are per category? I have played in points league like this and it has been 0.5 for each block.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 20:59:52 GMT
The weightings are per category, so you can basically win "fights" category with only one fight in a week (what usually happens) while you might need over 100 blocked shots in a week to win that category. So in that case, you'd get 1 point for that one fight but only 0.5 points for all the blocked shots. That just seems very stupid to me. Fights should not be anywhere near that valuable. Are you sure they are per category? I have played in points league like this and it has been 0.5 for each block. No, I'm not sure. That's why I'd like to get some clarification on this. But then "Most categories is a Win" wouldn't make any sense if you were getting 0.5 points per blocked shot. It would be a weighted points league, then.
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